i know they mentioned that the Labyrinth is like a server, with the portals acting as login points, so to close the Labyrinth, is to close the server, and once again, i go back to my previous Theory that the Ghostbusters Community space is somehow a lesser spiritual version of the Labyrinth. One based in the Physical, and one based in the Mind. I originally thought that Gavis may have made the community as a means to test the transfer of authority, as we have seen him do with the GM and other factors, in order to better understand the Labyrinth’s own Authority transfer and potentially overwrite and control it. And while i do think thats still a possibility, I wonder if instead, Gavis didnt make the community, and it was possibly fragmented off from the Labyrinth. We see the entities within have their mind’s controlled and altered, and various conditions can temporarily reawaken them. So if the Aspects of the Labyrinth that related to the Mind were, at some point in the past, fragmented off the whole, could the Community, or Spirit Labyrinth have come about, along with causing some of the effects we see relating to the mental side of various entities. This is an out there idea, and also based on minimal definitive proof, mostly just for fun and to throw it out there
Do we know that gavis physically made the community?We know he was there and had power there, but I don’t think he ever says “I made this” we have many characters attributing it’s creation to gavis, but they mean the framework for it hansoo designed. Gavis even stated hansoo basically built the area if I remember right?I think if the labyrinth and the community are related it would be more like “a different map in the same server” like you have rafdonia – the map with its walled garden and huge out of bounds areas, dungeon L1 the map, Dungeon L2, the map etc we even have secret portals in the castle that go to secret areas like the dungeon floors!I think an interesting question is simply What exactly do the artifacts do?Gavis had an artifact, that artifact gave him power and authority over his “map" the “Community”, does that concept apply to the royal artifacts?Does each floor have an artifact that gives authority over that “map” What does the artifact bjorn gave to the tribe leader do? What authority does it possess?Is rafdonia itself actually a map inside the labyrinth and the king the floor boss?We have floor 1 and floor b1, what about the ground floor?
we dont know for sure thats just a theory i have, He may or may not have made the community. I also had a theory previously that Raphdonia, and its world, could be considered the Ground Floor! it would be fun to explore further
I’ll reply instead of edit above since you’re already replying!Another thing, we haven’t seen the king, we don’t know anyone who has without it been a terrifying encounter. Speculatively, is the king the floor boss and is the condition to prevent his summoning the sacrifice of a percentage of magic stones used in taxes? Why are there taxes? We have learnt that those who can’t pay taxes go bye-bye, maybe they get turned into magic stones? We do know there is a machine that can turn someone into magic stones that was part of a rafdonia based lab.We don’t have any in world justification for why the king isn’t hanging out and doing king things. He’s just absent.
also worth noting, in this vein, would the outside world then also be considered a Map or zone. Its been mentioned that they have portals and access points to the higher Floors of the Labyrinth, once again through Gavis, which i do think indicates that there is high chance that the outside world is also closely connected to the Labyrinth. As for the king, im not sure if he is the floor boss, mostly cause of what we know from Saintred/Village Chief. He mentioned that the King would use Karui’s heart to swap to his kid’s body to remain alive, implying that he Was seen. and we also saw the rift version of the Immortal King before he was King while they were in the basement Rift. As for the Magic stones partially being used as a means to prevent the spawning of a Floor Boss, that could be viable, but rather than the King, it could be some other entity. After the Heart was lost by the Royals as the village chief stole it, im pretty sure it was mentioned that Alchemy was used to try and find a way to keep the immortal King alive, so im not sure what method may have been used, but at least its implied that they are somehow still immortal. Though we dont know the detailsAlso the executions of those who cant pay taxes are done publically, there was the scene with the blood bread and eating it for “luck” at the start, though its very possible that some people are killed in that manner while others are taken away secretly to be converted to Magic Stones like you mention.There being artifacts tied to the various regions of the Labyrinth is an interesting concept tbh, and makes me think back to something else very specific that was mentioned. The merging of artifacts with Portal Stones in the Labyrinth. Karui’s Heart for example, was stated to be fused with the Portal Stone in B1 that led up, and could only be inserted and removed while the portal was active. Which is why Saintred/the Chief, couldnt remove it except during dimensional collapses before then, as that is a time that was stated to auto activate the portal stones. To me, that implies that other artifacts could also be fused into active portal stones, and potentially, by fusing the correct artifact with the correct Portal stone, some conditions may be met that unlock new features, controls, or other things. So if artifacts do have a portal stone that they are specifically tied to, that could mesh with your idea that each Map has a control Artifact, and potentially, to activate it, requires fusing with a specific portal stone to start the process
>Outside world map or zoneI think i’d want to know more about time magic in this series. But i’d lean towards “zone” and the floors/maps are “static time periods”Is it not possible that “entering the dungeon" is just walking into a teleportation zone that takes them to the floor 1 caves in a timelocked period? IE it’s not dimensional magic it’s a teleport and a timetravel spell?If that’s the case then getting outside of the barriers in the walled garden that is rahpdonia could let you literally walk to the area that would be floor 7, cast a time spell and walk into the dungeon at “floor 7” right?
King floorboss
No that’s a good point, and thanks for the reminder about what the heart does. I do think that’s probably too much of a stretch.Magic stones to stop a summoning could also just be fuel for the kings immortality / resources to maintain the walled garden and control system to keep getting the king stones to keep the immortality going.
Public Executions
Ah right, I think i mixed up with another novel I read. Yeah the capital punishments are public in this world.
Artifacts
I had actually forgotten that’s how he got the heart :oIf that’s the case then wouldn’t every single dimensional collapse have been necessary to retrieve an artifact? That has, implications..It also sounds like the labyrinth has been deconstructed by the royal family and co? Would the artifacts owned by the 6 races tie into the labyrinth aswell or… nvm I remembered they are necessary to open the 10th floor. So i’d suspect we need to rebuild the labyrinth?
The potential of there being real world versions of the various areas outside the walls has occurred to me, though i more was thinking it may be that there are “real” versions outside the walls, and then “copied” versions inside the main labyrinth, We saw that there seems to be the Pantelion Ruins as a normal area and then also that there is the Pantelion ruins that Bjorn went to in the Basement, the first was stated to be in ruins, while the one in the basement seemed New. It being time travel rather than Copies however would be an interesting way to interpret that though. And if so, could be testable in theory, if the past sectors are affected somehow, and then the future areas checked for changes matching the ones made elsewhere, would give us the answer on that possibility. technically he stole the heart from the Royals he told us, and then once he was in the Labyrinth as a monster, the dimensional collapse happened, he tried to enter the portal and failed, and found that the artifact binded with the Portal stone, and then he implied that, through later Collapses, he was able to test and confirm that the artifact could be inserted and removed while the portal stone was active. And also noteworthy, the artifact still Worked while fused into the Portal Stone. Bjorn then later removed the artifact when the portal stone was activated normally once he got the Authority to leave in the Basement. Implying that if the right conditions are met, and there were originally portals with artifacts fused within them, then they could be removed without Dimensional Collaspes. However its also worth noting that, If the King Is immortal, then why bother figuring out the pesky conditions to remove them normally, just wait for a Collapse, and remove the artifact manually. If you lose some people along the way. Well, they’re replaceable to the King. Also i just realized this, but i think what the Chief may also have implied is that an artifact is Forced to bind to the portal stone during the Collapse, since Bjorn could remove it and enter the portal with it and take it from the labyrinth as well when normally activated. Otherwise, like you said, every artifact would need a collapse to leave withThe 6 artifacts of the various Races being tied to various portal stones would also make sense to me. And honestly, i wonder if whoever stole them originally has somehow brought them Back into the Labyrinth, but they’re inserted in the wrong places. To Hide them somehow? Or are being used in other specific special locations beyond just opening the 10th floor.
So my crackpot theory is this:Basement B1 is not in the labyrinth. Time flows normally there, the pantelion ruins we see there are the ones that exist in the current time period. The pantelion ruins that are destroyed (Floor 3?) are the timeshifted ones. Bjorn didn’t activate a portal to leave the labyrinth he just took a normal teleporter back to raphdonia and its the magic barrier around raphdonia or simply teleportation circles having a “is not monster" check that prevented the tribe chief from taking it. This makes sense otherwise you'd have random gobbos and stuff taking the L1 portal to L2 eventually right?Why I think the labyrinth is time magic shenanigans is because how time in it was described to us, each layer you go down you get exponentially more time to explore. Stacking time spells and teleport spells.We also have gavrillius stone / monument thingo that inscribes achievements. This implies everything, absolutely everything is going according to a known fate. The tribe leader knew bjorn would leave B1, this means he knew what was on the stone before the stone showed it, he either knew this maybe because1. He did some time travel shenanigans2. He was there when it was created and it was created complete then erased3. I have forgotten something!!
Wait for a dimensional collapse
We have been told the king can cause a dimensional collapse, so he wouldn’t even have to wait, that or removing the thing /activating the thing is what causes a collapse.I’d speculate the artifacts are at least reset buttons for each floor first and foremost. And activating one yeets that floor.
Race artifacts
I’d suspect auril gavis / the king nicked them to prevent bjorn speedrunning the game, or time travel shenanigans occurred and they were stolen by future-past bjorn.If the king has them it’s probably because they provide dominion over the race that created it or something equally authoritarian.Or they’re going to be late-stort macguffins for a clutch powerup
there are also the Records mentioned by LeAtlas, the Goddess of Fate, and also the Records mentioned by Gavis, and the Village Chief, along with the Record Fragments being fragments of pre-determined Time, where the outward perception of what happens must remain the same, even if new details that may change the actual effects happen, like we saw with the “death” of Amelia’s sister. So it does seem that there is some Pre-determinism going on, and time magic would help explain that to a degree. We dont know what “seeing the Records” as stated by gavis and the Chief mean technically, and we also know that Names in the Records are displayed as unknown Symbols that can’t be recognized directly for any name of an existing person, so knowing who its about has to be taken from context, but other than that, we dont know how a person would read the Records, as they have been referred to. And given that a Record Fragment is literal Time Travel, that to me implies that reading a Record is not so simple as simply seeing words on a page, there is likely some time travel stuff going on with even just reading them
Quick reply will edit:DId you intend to write it as LeAtlas or is that how it’s always written? I know translations and all but uh, The Atlas? The God of fate is named after a collection of maps or a “guide”?
thats her name yes, though sometimes its been Reatlas instead cause of how translations can swap Ls and Rs, LeAtlas just seems more correct than ReAtlas. Patron Deity of Sven Parab, The Goblin
Re:Atlas would also be fine like an email chain or forum thread called “Atlas”Signifying a reply to the thread.Definitely grasping at straws and overthinking it.But we know that bjorns monitor is still on displaying his Ws, could gavrillius's record just be an in-universe equivalent ie the servers log / event screen?Are we going to jump the shark and say it’s plausible the deity is an admin / moderator with savestate and loadstate privileges for at least the map they flexed on and some cross-universe internet access?Is prayer submitting a ticket for the admin to adjust someone’s HP value ;3I’m progressively getting wilder and more off the mark here, time for a breakEdit: Regarding the records, was it cant read just the names or cant read the whole thing? If gavrillius setup a series of events that need to occur in order to get to whatever ideal ending he wants then just blurred it you’d have the fate locking component. If you could read the events but not the names via an authority or time travel spell you’d be able to speculate about who did what like the tribe leader did, if you knew all the events or enough of them that would be sufficient motivation to change position on things like supporting the royal family, the witch etc etcSo I think we can say the tribe leader has definitely read most of or enough future events to turn against his former friend the King.We don’t know what’s at the end of the record, all we know is gavrillius seems to have chosen it. This may be bad for our MC.Our hero hasn’t encountered the record stone since he learnt how to read ancient has he? I am curious if he can now read it.
You know, there’s still one big mystery (among the many others) that still lingers. The community was able to separate the spirit from the body, and differentiate evil spirits. I wonder if there is something both intrinsic and universal to the evil spirit, that might also become a trigger in the labyrinth (ie. The final gate). If so, your theory might hold more water than you think
I gave it a chapter to see where this was going. And this has become horrid writing in a mere 5chapters. Where’s the character consistency? Nothing about his team, ladies specifically suggests they would just sit quietly at home while Bjorn dodges talking to them for several days and not coming home after the meetings ended. Why bring up marriage at all? In what world does the marquis quietly accept something as ridiculous as a doll love declaration. And if this love paper existed why wasn’t it used literally another time than this? Author is just writing whatever pops in his head at this point smh he blew his load on basement floor 1 and now can’t keep the story together so let’s call it “barbarian madness” to cover any bad writing decisions. What part of avoiding women and denying self growth are confucian values? Or is that not a thing anymore?…..tragic writing.
You know, excellent point. How the fuck has our obsessive sociopath Erwin not gone into a blind murder frenzy yet.Lid should have come off the pot the second he didn’t come back home / spent the night with our mage friend.“Amelia keeping everything under wraps” is doing alot of covering the more you think about it.Hopefully the author, addresses our female friends feelings, wants and motivations properly.
the author has at least had those moments with Amelia and Erwin, where amelia advises her to try and hold back, even if it hurts, and get that obession under control, and that if she can do so, Bjorn may notice her more. At least, thats how i took their conversations that they have had back in the basement. So i take this as Erwin struggling and fighting against that Obsession, at the advice of Amelia. The only way to confirm thats whats happening would be an Erwin perspective though, which could be interesting, if she is fighting those Emotions, and outwardly is fine, being able to see the inward struggle she’s dealing with would make it more satisfying. But youre right that we need to see the girl’s side of all this and how they are processing it, cause realistically, they should all feel just as weird about this
I would not mind a “meanwhile, #amelia’s perspective” chaptor placed around the same timeframe he’s been called up to the royal court tbh.I agree it would be good to get their perspective, I don’t think we’re going to lose the “bjorn filter" for a while though sadly.
This is incredibly dangerous. Based on this chapter I can guarantee his ex is working with Sergeant.
Some of you are saying she had a healthy relationship with her or that he needs to be direct to women.
He was direct with Misha in the past when they banged that one time but she burned him.
If he had a healthy relationship with Black, he would see her fondly now but that hasn’t been shown to us. She honestly gives yandere vibes. The ex also has made it clear she wants to take him home, as if Sergeant never told her he doesn’t want to leave this world, especially if she shared with sergeant she wants to also return.
In regards to the Countess, she was working on a project that would allow evil spirits to freely intermingle with the royal family. Now the ex is telling Bjorn not to get close to the countess. By sending that doll as a joke along with the letter in their native language, which the royal family knows the existence of when to tortured the information out of past evil spirits, it could be used to corner Bjorn in the future about being an evil spirit. That along with a recording orb she could have had on her when they were having that conversation, some may have forgotten about their existence since they haven’t used since the first time he gets arrested.
This chapter was a MFer. The ex seems too know his small quirks that he’s not aware of like when he gets startled he blinks. Kind of a massive weakness that should have been fixed by now given all his real combat experience. If his enemies were to learn of it they could take advantage of it.
If he didn’t have a healthy relationship with black he had sufficient cause to “fix a problem with her head" when she outed herself as an evil spirit.I think it’s more fair than not to say the interactions we have seen between them show there is some trust between them or at least nothing that indicates they’re on horrid terms with each other.He accepted the note from her, meaning he has intentions of coordinating with her.Id argue the ex knowing and remembering his small quirks showcases their intimate history and makes it less likely they’d have been a really bad burn or blow-out. If there was the author would have foreshadowed it or outright told us by now imo.Id argue the ex sending a doll of herself is an intimate gift, even if it’s primary purpose was trolling.Contextually you’re giving an admitted doll fucker a doll of yourself, and you’re comfortable doing so. Bro also accepted it / didn’t destroy it, so no hints there about animosity.I do however agree she’s sus regarding her comments about the countess, but I don’t think we have any evidence to say ragna also isn’t sus. I agree it was definitely a big risk and a large potential vulnerability for bjorn to out himself to her. We'll see what happens.Could you elaborate on why you think she’s working with sergeant?
The thing with Hyun-Byeol is that she knows Hansoo better than he knows himself, evident in how she was able to expose to him his “tell” when he is surprised. In a battle of wits, she’s an equal, or might even have a leg up, as Hansoo admitted her learned a lot of his wits from her. After they met again in Ghostbusters, he apologized to her, signaling to us that he may have been the reason their relationship ended (he either did something wrong or didn’t do something right).She is shown to be very sharp and clever, as she is able to work both Baek Ho and the Ghostmaster at her whims, but she also has her own agenda – since Hansoo/Bjorn can’t direct her like he does his close allies, it makes her unpredictable for him and difficult to fully trust. I think thats why he didn’t want to tell her his true feelings about not wanting to go back – fearing that he might lose her support or turn her against him. I wonder if he’s told Amelia about her, or if Baek Ho is the only other one who really knows about their history. Also, good thing Baek Ho doesn’t know about her identify in Raphdonia – he would certainly keep her in his back pocket in order to further manipulate his hyung.
Once again, Bjorn has no balls when it comes to women. It's tiring to see him continuously deflecting and postponing stuff because he's afraid. Atp we can even be sure that he's not suffering from some kind of romantic trauma, cause Hyun-Byeol is the only Earth-based relationship that's been brought up, and she's obviously not a bad influence on him, from what we've seen so far.
Author-nim, please just have him be open and direct in a meaningful way, at least once. Most of his party knows Bjorn is an evil spirit, so there's no real repercussion for him to talk to Amelia (still #1 in terms of appropriate partner, imo) and let her know what's going on. Each of them would kill and die for him, except maybe Auyen who doesn't really count, so he can be honest without worry.
Him deciding to be honest with Hyun later on is gonna bite him in the ass, when she would likely not do or be able to do anything if he'd told her he doesn't want to leave just now.
the author DID make a traumatic past for our boy even taking in account how his mother reacted to his disappearing we can understood how bad his childhood was STILL if you decide to put around the mc countless girls who love him for hundreds of chapters but then make him act like a scared virgin it will make people disappointed . childhood friend of zenith was like this for a long time but at the end the author did made the mc acknowledge his feelings . from what im seeing in here tho i don’t really have much hope for the same
I seem to have missed the traumatic past aspect? Could you elaborate on why our boy has one / what was written as to why its traumatising again?My recollection of his past is “typical no life gamer nerd who did the Mandatory service and somehow snagged a ‘hot gf’ who left him for undisclosed/gamer reasons"I genuinely don’t recall anything at all about bro having relationship trauma in cannon, please correct me.
Sure , after he disappear for months the police went to the mother (possible adopted mother) and she didn't give a fuck about him gone she just asked about his money and house . Then and im not 100% im pretty sure he was cursed as a child cause there was a memory of car crash where possibly his parents died and houses caught on fire , him being left alone in an amusement park and him being a lot in hospital being sick .everyone around him got super bad luck basically making him hated . The only one in his life that actually seemed to care for him was this ex girlfriend and probably they split cause he never truly trust her .always thinking that she will also hurt him at some point
I had forgotten about all of those events, thanks for the reminder. Bjorn definitely had a shitty childhood / shit mum.No father figure might explain the bad with women thing to an extent but idk, it wasn’t written like he popped his cherry with misha.I think it would be nice if the author elaborated a bit more on their relationship too
Bingo. It also implies that he doesn’t really trust people well, which is why he didn’t have friends – and why he still distances his closest ppl as comrades. Also why he keeps his truths close to the chest and why he’s so good (usually) at hiding his evil spirit identity.
we also had a couple brief mentions that he was in the hospital for a fair while, and played alot of games while admitted. But why he was in the hospital was never truly stated i think. My personal Bet is that he was in a Psych Ward and it could be part of why he and his Ex broke up. cause in modern society, a person like Hansoo May have issues. though its entirely possible it was something physical also
Hospital after car accident perhaps?We don't have the best timeline for hospital girlfriend gaming addiction etcI think it's likely it goesCar Accident > Hospital > Gaming Addiction > Military Service > Girlfriend > Breakup > Isekai'dBecause we know he spent up to 10yrs grinding the game IRL, I recall a line like “I spent my twenties on this game" before he got bjorn'd. Possible its nothing more serious than Hyunbeol just leaving him because he neglected her as he cared more about his game?
yeah, id really like to get a better timeline on the before they got here, especially given that him and his ex are both here, it really just makes us question what happened then. A flashback of some kind could be nice, or even just a straight forward conversation between Bjorn and her. Hell, i wonder if the Record Fragments are limited to the Timeline of Raphdonia only. I wonder if there are Record Fragments for other worlds too? That would be a rather novel way to introduce the facts of Earth back to us. Bjorn somehow finds a fragment that sends him to re-experience his own past on Earth before being returned after completing some purpose. Which could also involve then meeting the person known as Auril Gavis on Earth now that I think about it. Since theres that scene with the old man at the start who took Hansoo’s screen.
He also worked a desk job too – it was insinuated to be a black company iirc, but he had no friends and didn’t get along with ppl, likely due to his relationship with his mom and others who used to pity him. He's been dropping these little gems nonchallantly throughout the novel, and along with Hyun-Byeol's exposition of him, I’ve been trying to go back and piece them together. Mind you, i’m piecing between the lines a little so… please keep a grain of salt nearby
welp its back to being peak 1 chapter of troll but almost 700 chapters of peak back on pace bjorn is about to do some crazy illegal shit with the human hater time to make some money
I think it's time for Bjorn's inner Lloyd to come out and start pulling in the dough. He's going to corner the market on labor with his new workers with barbarians working security maybe? Even up against dwarves, he can beat them by undercutting them and building faster. If he can't compete with quality then go with cost and speed.
Okay, bjorn getting trolled with the hyunbeol doll got a laugh.
Note paper is pretty cool, we should get more of that, seems useful if we ever split the party or need to coordinate multiple parties at a distance in the dungeon.
The ragna plot potentially deepens, she is a powerful(?) mage from a noble family so maybe she knows some interesting magic / is plot relevant to bifron?
The next Arc sounds like it’s stonks / capitalism ho, time.
Noteably bjorn outed himself as lion just now. Hyunbeol didn’t know lion was hansoo / bjorn. Bjorn didn’t have to let hyunbeol know he recognised that mask. Little bit smooth brain there.
That would be a bit underwhelming and i don’t think possible?Hasnt the witch existed as-is since before the walls went up 300+ years ago?Someone definitely would have clued on to ragna not aging by now.
The marquis is the king’s dad???Did I miss that somewhere or am I misunderstanding you :oIf she’s the king’s daughter I don’t think she’d have been used politically in this way, she’d already have been married off to another noble for position / politics. No chance the king would let even his illegitimate daughter marry some dirty barbarian explorer imo
no i mean that the king had a daughter with the marquis daughter . so the marquis is the grampa . that could explain why she was hidden soo thoroughly and why his ex told him to stay away from her cause she has a big secret . i don’t buy the illegitimate thing . the marquis is too powerful to hide a thing like this especially in this medieval world
Waaaaaaa….I don’t remember this anywhere, is that a theory, or a spoiler? (Or maybe i just missed that huge drop) I mean that would def be something to hide, considering she could end up being a target for enemies of the royal family. If this is really true, maybe in proposing marriage to Bjorn, the Marquis was less trying to control Bjorn, and maybe more trying to set Ragna up with someone who was sure to protect her and keep her safe?If she had a secret bloodline, I was thinking she might have a relation to the Great Sage, but I hadn’t thought of this.Where’s a mind explosion gif when you need one
Honestly no idea why the author is making everyone confess to Bjorn without him saying anything to anyone. The story wouldn't be as awkward as it is right now if Bjorn would just start a harem. Ngl
Probably doesn’t want to write smut or deal with the complexities of raising kids / rotating pregnant partner members out of the party.Still think the best decision he could have made is to have just not made bjorn's pairings a plot point at all. Omniscient reader did a really good job of telling a story where an eros romance was never in the cards, it’s not impossible to sell a story without it.
Even in that story, a romance done right would have made it better though. It takes wisdom to know when you can't write romance well though, so a good author would know their limits and avoid it. Maybe this author thought he could but not if more than he could chew?Actually one of the commenters in the last chapter made a good point. This trope might just be considered peak comedy in Korea. It got me thinking about how stand up in Korea works and it's… definitely different than it is here to say the least.
In that story we did get a romance, we had multiples, just not an Eros one.We had a very well written one-sided / non-reciprocal phillia relationship between the 2 male MCs that grew into a reciprocated pragma relationship as the story progressed.The closest we got to an Eros relationship was between 2 key side-characters, but that peaked as Pragma for reasonsWe even had a really really well written and unique take on progressing Philautia from another key side character.And the many developing plutonic phillia relationships between everyone and their constellations / the male MC.I honestly do not know where you’d slap a traditional Eros relationship into that novel without it been jarring or taking away from the other interpersonal story beats.Wont go into more exact details since idk how far you and others here have gotten in that particular story, and the justifications i’d use are very spoilers, but suffice to say the author wrote a beautiful tragedy.Tangent aside, yeah I agree the doll shit could just be a cultural miss.
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i know they mentioned that the Labyrinth is like a server, with the portals acting as login points, so to close the Labyrinth, is to close the server, and once again, i go back to my previous Theory that the Ghostbusters Community space is somehow a lesser spiritual version of the Labyrinth. One based in the Physical, and one based in the Mind. I originally thought that Gavis may have made the community as a means to test the transfer of authority, as we have seen him do with the GM and other factors, in order to better understand the Labyrinth’s own Authority transfer and potentially overwrite and control it. And while i do think thats still a possibility, I wonder if instead, Gavis didnt make the community, and it was possibly fragmented off from the Labyrinth. We see the entities within have their mind’s controlled and altered, and various conditions can temporarily reawaken them. So if the Aspects of the Labyrinth that related to the Mind were, at some point in the past, fragmented off the whole, could the Community, or Spirit Labyrinth have come about, along with causing some of the effects we see relating to the mental side of various entities. This is an out there idea, and also based on minimal definitive proof, mostly just for fun and to throw it out there
>Outside world map or zoneI think i’d want to know more about time magic in this series. But i’d lean towards “zone” and the floors/maps are “static time periods”Is it not possible that “entering the dungeon" is just walking into a teleportation zone that takes them to the floor 1 caves in a timelocked period? IE it’s not dimensional magic it’s a teleport and a timetravel spell?If that’s the case then getting outside of the barriers in the walled garden that is rahpdonia could let you literally walk to the area that would be floor 7, cast a time spell and walk into the dungeon at “floor 7” right?
No that’s a good point, and thanks for the reminder about what the heart does. I do think that’s probably too much of a stretch.Magic stones to stop a summoning could also just be fuel for the kings immortality / resources to maintain the walled garden and control system to keep getting the king stones to keep the immortality going.
Ah right, I think i mixed up with another novel I read. Yeah the capital punishments are public in this world.
I had actually forgotten that’s how he got the heart :oIf that’s the case then wouldn’t every single dimensional collapse have been necessary to retrieve an artifact? That has, implications..It also sounds like the labyrinth has been deconstructed by the royal family and co? Would the artifacts owned by the 6 races tie into the labyrinth aswell or… nvm I remembered they are necessary to open the 10th floor. So i’d suspect we need to rebuild the labyrinth?
So my crackpot theory is this:Basement B1 is not in the labyrinth. Time flows normally there, the pantelion ruins we see there are the ones that exist in the current time period. The pantelion ruins that are destroyed (Floor 3?) are the timeshifted ones. Bjorn didn’t activate a portal to leave the labyrinth he just took a normal teleporter back to raphdonia and its the magic barrier around raphdonia or simply teleportation circles having a “is not monster" check that prevented the tribe chief from taking it. This makes sense otherwise you'd have random gobbos and stuff taking the L1 portal to L2 eventually right?Why I think the labyrinth is time magic shenanigans is because how time in it was described to us, each layer you go down you get exponentially more time to explore. Stacking time spells and teleport spells.We also have gavrillius stone / monument thingo that inscribes achievements. This implies everything, absolutely everything is going according to a known fate. The tribe leader knew bjorn would leave B1, this means he knew what was on the stone before the stone showed it, he either knew this maybe because1. He did some time travel shenanigans2. He was there when it was created and it was created complete then erased3. I have forgotten something!!
We have been told the king can cause a dimensional collapse, so he wouldn’t even have to wait, that or removing the thing /activating the thing is what causes a collapse.I’d speculate the artifacts are at least reset buttons for each floor first and foremost. And activating one yeets that floor.
I’d suspect auril gavis / the king nicked them to prevent bjorn speedrunning the game, or time travel shenanigans occurred and they were stolen by future-past bjorn.If the king has them it’s probably because they provide dominion over the race that created it or something equally authoritarian.Or they’re going to be late-stort macguffins for a clutch powerup
I gave it a chapter to see where this was going. And this has become horrid writing in a mere 5chapters. Where’s the character consistency? Nothing about his team, ladies specifically suggests they would just sit quietly at home while Bjorn dodges talking to them for several days and not coming home after the meetings ended. Why bring up marriage at all? In what world does the marquis quietly accept something as ridiculous as a doll love declaration. And if this love paper existed why wasn’t it used literally another time than this? Author is just writing whatever pops in his head at this point smh he blew his load on basement floor 1 and now can’t keep the story together so let’s call it “barbarian madness” to cover any bad writing decisions. What part of avoiding women and denying self growth are confucian values? Or is that not a thing anymore?…..tragic writing.
You know, excellent point. How the fuck has our obsessive sociopath Erwin not gone into a blind murder frenzy yet.Lid should have come off the pot the second he didn’t come back home / spent the night with our mage friend.“Amelia keeping everything under wraps” is doing alot of covering the more you think about it.Hopefully the author, addresses our female friends feelings, wants and motivations properly.
This is incredibly dangerous. Based on this chapter I can guarantee his ex is working with Sergeant.
Some of you are saying she had a healthy relationship with her or that he needs to be direct to women.
He was direct with Misha in the past when they banged that one time but she burned him.
If he had a healthy relationship with Black, he would see her fondly now but that hasn’t been shown to us. She honestly gives yandere vibes. The ex also has made it clear she wants to take him home, as if Sergeant never told her he doesn’t want to leave this world, especially if she shared with sergeant she wants to also return.
In regards to the Countess, she was working on a project that would allow evil spirits to freely intermingle with the royal family. Now the ex is telling Bjorn not to get close to the countess. By sending that doll as a joke along with the letter in their native language, which the royal family knows the existence of when to tortured the information out of past evil spirits, it could be used to corner Bjorn in the future about being an evil spirit. That along with a recording orb she could have had on her when they were having that conversation, some may have forgotten about their existence since they haven’t used since the first time he gets arrested.
This chapter was a MFer. The ex seems too know his small quirks that he’s not aware of like when he gets startled he blinks. Kind of a massive weakness that should have been fixed by now given all his real combat experience. If his enemies were to learn of it they could take advantage of it.
Once again, Bjorn has no balls when it comes to women. It's tiring to see him continuously deflecting and postponing stuff because he's afraid. Atp we can even be sure that he's not suffering from some kind of romantic trauma, cause Hyun-Byeol is the only Earth-based relationship that's been brought up, and she's obviously not a bad influence on him, from what we've seen so far.
Author-nim, please just have him be open and direct in a meaningful way, at least once. Most of his party knows Bjorn is an evil spirit, so there's no real repercussion for him to talk to Amelia (still #1 in terms of appropriate partner, imo) and let her know what's going on. Each of them would kill and die for him, except maybe Auyen who doesn't really count, so he can be honest without worry.
Him deciding to be honest with Hyun later on is gonna bite him in the ass, when she would likely not do or be able to do anything if he'd told her he doesn't want to leave just now.
welp its back to being peak 1 chapter of troll but almost 700 chapters of peak back on pace bjorn is about to do some crazy illegal shit with the human hater time to make some money
I think it's time for Bjorn's inner Lloyd to come out and start pulling in the dough. He's going to corner the market on labor with his new workers with barbarians working security maybe? Even up against dwarves, he can beat them by undercutting them and building faster. If he can't compete with quality then go with cost and speed.
Okay, bjorn getting trolled with the hyunbeol doll got a laugh.
Note paper is pretty cool, we should get more of that, seems useful if we ever split the party or need to coordinate multiple parties at a distance in the dungeon.
The ragna plot potentially deepens, she is a powerful(?) mage from a noble family so maybe she knows some interesting magic / is plot relevant to bifron?
The next Arc sounds like it’s stonks / capitalism ho, time.
Noteably bjorn outed himself as lion just now. Hyunbeol didn’t know lion was hansoo / bjorn. Bjorn didn’t have to let hyunbeol know he recognised that mask. Little bit smooth brain there.
Let’s see what money scheme he is going to pull off this time x) the troll-doll was peak shame. I’d have died of shame at that moment lol
Honestly no idea why the author is making everyone confess to Bjorn without him saying anything to anyone. The story wouldn't be as awkward as it is right now if Bjorn would just start a harem. Ngl